BTW, what actually happened with this money collecting ordeal? Exactly how demanding are they? Did you specifically explain to them that the only money you had was for your lunch and you wouldn't be able to eat if you gave it to them?
--Pepto-Dash!!
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Camira Breen |
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Sorry to hear that you're so down on your luck lately, FO, but the good news is, you already have a huge game collection, so not being able to buy more for awhile won't mean you'll go without.
BTW, what actually happened with this money collecting ordeal? Exactly how demanding are they? Did you specifically explain to them that the only money you had was for your lunch and you wouldn't be able to eat if you gave it to them? --Pepto-Dash!! |
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Flying Omelette |
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Not being able to buy games isn't a problem. It's just that it's a little scary that I no longer have that "comfort zone". It's a little alarming when, all of sudden, you're about $60 shorter of what you used to be after paying all the necessary expenses. Before, when I had that comfort zone, it wasn't such a big deal shelling out a couple bucks here and there for someone's dead grandmother. Annoying, yes, but not life-threatening. Now, it's a MUCH bigger problem.
Anyway, the conversation this morning went something like: Bill collector walks in, shoves 2 envelopes and cards under my nose. Him: (Someone I've never heard of before)'s mother passed away and (another name I've never heard before)'s father passed away. Me: I'm REALLY sorry, but I don't have any money right now. All I've got is a few dollars for my lunch and that's it. Him: *shrugs shoulders and shoves cards and envelopes even closer to me* That's okay. *then starts handing me the pen to sign the cards* Me: No, I'm sorry, but if I give you my lunch money, I'll have nothing to eat, and I'm a hypoglycemic. I have to eat something for lunch. Him: *laughs* I know, but...here. *motions at me with the pen* I stare at him for a few moments and he refuses to budge. Me: Well, how much do you need? Him: Whatever you can give me. Me: *I reluctantly pull out my purse and dig out the four dollars I had waiting for my lunch* Is that enough? Him: That'll do. Me: *as I sign the cards* Do you know that if I don't get something to eat, it could result in me having a low blood-sugar attack? Him: *laughs, takes cards and envelopes and leaves, while still laughing*
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Geez, what an asshole! Did he at least have the decency to check on you during your lunchbreak to see if you'd gotten something to eat?
I did some research on workplace ethics, and unfortunately, I can't seem to find any specific laws against this type of thing, although I just can't imagine it being legal to intimidate money out of people. Round up the pizza delivery boys... We're going in!! |
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Flying Omelette |
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Did he at least have the decency to check on you during your lunchbreak to see if you'd gotten something to eat?
No, he didn't and I would expect no better. None of my relatives died. Therefore, I don't deserve any of their sympathy or understanding. Another problem I have with donating all this money is that I still have *no* idea what the money is for. If it does go to help pay funeral expenses, then it's a little more acceptable. But I don't have any guarantee that this fucktard isn't just going to go spend it on a six-pack of booze. I probably should just get up the courage to flat-out tell these people "No", and send them packing, but I'm just too afraid of looking like a "scrooge" in front of everyone else who does donate.
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Well, that's about all I can suggest you do: Just simply refuse to pay up, no matter how demanding they are. If they fire you or give you a hard time because of something like that, you could get them in trouble with the BBB. You'll either have to live with being viewed as a "scrooge" or say goodbye to your money. Life isn't meant to be fair.
The Omni-Wonder of the Universe has spoken ~cackle ~cackle |
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Flying Omelette |
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His persistent behavior even after I told him I only had money for lunch tells me that he probably gets told that a lot, and that he just didn't believe I was being sincere (though in reality I did have an extra five dollars I didn't know about, but that's really beside the point).
Crawl tells me that I just have to "stand up for myself" and not let them take my money. Well, that's certainly a better response than my mother's "You've gotta go with the flow!" lectures. But it's just not that simple. But then again, maybe if other people really are as unhappy about this donation thing as I am, and enough people would refuse to donate, then others would start refusing, too, and we could put an end to this.
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sethrashnoo |
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Quick question: Is there anything in particular that's keeping you from going back to college to take courses that could help get you a better job?
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Flying Omelette |
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Mostly time, money, the usual blah blah...
I just really need to get over it. If I had gone to school for art, maybe things would've been different, but there's also the chance I wouldn't have met Crawl if things had gone that way. And now, it's just too late for me to even think about art. If I did go back to college, it would have to be for something else, and I don't even know what. Until I figure that out, I have no right to be complaining. You see, this is why I need to learn to stick my hiatuses. Making posts while I'm depressed, in a foul mood, have had continuous nightmares, and really bad days at work results in this sort of crap.
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bjstrykes |
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Well, maybe you should stop complaining and try to work towards taking some more classes. Figure out what you want and go for it. It's never too late. It doesn't have to be art, so long as it's something you enjoy doing.
As for the other things, just my opinion, but I'm in agreement with James. If your workplace is treating you unfairly, you have every right to complain about it. However, complaining here won't do you any good. You need to gather up the strength to go to your superior(s) about it and tell them what's happening, and that you won't tolerate it anymore. |
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Wel, if FO wasn't here complaining about it, this board wouldn't be getting as many posts. But I agree that if she wants something done about it, she has to say something to her manager or supervisor.
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Well, if anyone tried to steal my lunch money, I'd give 'em what's coming to 'em.
Dammit! This is the third time I've been logged out today! I don't feel like logging back in again. I'm just going to leave for now until ezboard stops sucking so much. |
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Oh Sassparilla |
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Was your mother making you pay for her car? O_o
Damn! I just now read through this topic. I had no idea things had gotten THIS bad. I agree with James. Anyplace that doesn't allow you to take a full half-hour break and then steals your lunch money on top of that is not a place where I'd want to work. THE TOOTH OF MARCH |
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Flying Omelette |
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She was using the money I gave her for rent to make the car payments. But she still has no right to treat me that way. She quit her job so she could do volunteer work with wildlife. Saving wildlife is nice and all, but when you have kids, your first responsibility is to them.
Contrary to what the media wants you to believe, parents don't necessarily have to be drunks or deadbeats to be terrible parents. But I've spent enough time complaining about them. They screwed up my life because I believed their bullshit for so long. The moment I stopped believing it was when my father kept assuring me I was going to get a "big promotion" on my last job, and that "big promotion" turned out to be a reprimand (a bad one at that, for something that wasn't my fault.) That's when I finally realized that everything I'd been taught my whole life was nothing but a bunch of lies, deceit, and bullshit, meant to purposefully keep me just smart enough to get a job, but stupid enough that I wouldn't be able to live on my own away from home. All that "You'll get an $80,000 a year job right out of college with this degree" and "Just wait and the job will come to you" was BS that I stupidly swallowed for so long. Fuck the schools. Fuck the media. Fuck everyone who ever said that your parents are always right, know what's best for you, and to never disobey them. Fuck you all straight to hell! And now I just don't know what to do to get out of this mess...Everything seems so hopeless...
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sethrashnoo |
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Though I agree they bear some responsibility for everything, it's not going to do you any good to continue blaming them and yourself, FO. Your parents can't do anything to help you now, but they also can't do anything to cause you any more trouble, now that you're away from them.
You know, I think there might be such a thing as career counselors. Have you ever considered looking into something like that for help? |
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Flying Omelette |
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I'm sorry. I know that you're right. I'm a person who's full of a lot of anger, bitterness, and resentment. I wish I could make people answer for everything. I sometimes hate human society so much.
And it's also that I haven't called them in awhile, and I don't want to because everytime I do, they play these stupid little mind games with me. Our conversations usually go something like this: Them: So...are you working? Me: Yes. I've been working. For over a year. I've said that before. I work for *name of company here*. Them: Well...what does your company do? Me: *blinks several times* We make truck parts. We go through this every time I call you guys. *rambles on about how much the job sucks* Them: Well, think about all the experience you're getting. Me: *blinks even more incredulously* Experience for what, mother? (*thinking to myself*: Sorry, mother, but that $80,000 job is and always has been a figment of your imagination. It's not real. It's not going to ever be real. Even if I worked for 80 years, it will never be real.) Them: So how's Crawl? Me: Oh, he's fine. He's still working. Them: OHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhh....He WORKS now?? Me: *blinks even MORE incredulously* Um...he's been working. Since I first moved here. I've told you that. A million times. Them: Well....we're getting old and we can't remember. Me: (*thinks to self*: You can't remember something as simple as me and Crawl having jobs??)
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FO, I can't really do much to help, except just wish you good luck and hope that things eventually start looking up for you. However, I do want to offer one word of caution:
Something about your parents' interest in your job and how much money you're making sounds rather creepy to me. That, on top of them making you pay for their car and that time you said they called you about a month after you moved to Ohio to complain they couldn't make the payments on the house without you, is all very suspicious. If I were you, I wouldn't tell them exactly how much money you or Crawl are making, especially if it's a lot. Round up the pizza delivery boys... We're going in!! |
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Flying Omelette |
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I haven't told them and I don't plan to. Trust me, I've been onto their conniving schemes for a few years now. Awhile ago, I was trying to explain a little about what I do with my website and they said, in a very excited voice, "Wow! You must make a lot of money doing that!" And I said, "Uh...no. I don't make anything. In fact, I put money out of my own pocket for some things". And then pretty much all the excitment and interest went out of their voices and they changed the subject.
Oh, yeah, I dare not ever suggest that getting that (non-existant) $80,000 job might be an impossibility. My mother would throw a temper tantrum, and my father would give me this long-winded speech about how I can do whatever I wanted, it's just that I completely lack confidence in myself, and that I had to keep "thinking positive" and telling myself over and over, "Yes, I can. Yes, I can", as though THAT could easily take the place of a decent college education and special training (note that I have a crappy college education.) It's like when Crawl once asked me if my parents had a retirement plan, and my response was, "I think I was it."
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Flying Omelette |
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BTW, as far as just "working at my own pace" and not worrying if they fire me goes...There's a problem with that. If I was fired, I wouldn't be able to put this place on a resume, which would leave a huge gap in my employment record (something, according to monster.com, companies frown on.) Also, according to Crawl, if I was fired, I would NOT be able to collect unemploymen. Only people who are laid off can. Being fired because (they think) you're not doing your job right isn't the same as being laid off because of company cutbacks or closure.
I haven't gotten an official warning yet. They did fire one person in another department, but already they're having regrets about it. Her replacements don't do as good a job as she did (though, in a selfish way, I'm hoping they don't rehire her because she used to drive me nuts, leaving somewhere between 5-20 messages in my voicemail a day for things she wanted me to do for her, as though I was her own personal secretary or something.) However, I might get a warning when it's time for my review, because if they're anything like my previous two jobs, they'll use it as an excuse to say they can't give me a raise. That's what happened during that "big promotion" incident at my last job. A similar thing happened at my first job. The first time I was up for review, they raised me 10 cents an hour. The second time, they had this long list of things I was "doing wrong". At the end of the "inquest", they asked me what it is that I wanted (which I thought was a strange question, but I gave them an honest answer). I told them I wanted a real data processing job, not a bill collector's job. They (unbelievably) told me they didn't have such a position available. I told them that isn't what their ad said. Their ad called for a data processor, not a bill collector. THAT'S what I applied for. Their response was something like, "Well, (name of other person in my department) does all that now." I later found out via other people who had worked at that same company that they did stuff like that to almost everybody, unless you were lucky and they liked your personality. They liked the personality of the other person in my department so much, that they didn't care that she often wandered in 1-2 hours late, and then hardly did any work after she did. In fact, at one point, I was specifically told that I couldn't leave any work for that person. I'm just beginning to think that the office environment in and of itself is something I just don't belong in. I wonder what it would be like working a job at a place like Home Depot, instead?
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My parents weren't drunks or physically abusive, but I still think there were really terrible parents. You couldn't talk to either of them about anything. My father would grab the remote control and make the TV louder. My mother would close her eyes, wave her hands around, and say, "Peace!" over and over again. To this day, I don't even really know much about them. Had it been in my nature, I probably would've become a seriously delinquent youth. I was just a wind-up toy they sent off to school every day to get A's and B's on tests. Nothing else mattered. If I ever got a C on my report card (like I did one year in Gym...GYM! Who the hell cares about gym??), I would be grounded and read the riot act.
On the other hand, I think it taught me to be really independant. I don't rely on anybody but myself to get me through life or for happiness. I'm also reminded of a college professor I once had who was particularly incompetent. Every day of that course, he droned on and on and on about the "follow your dreams" and "you can be whatever you want to be" crap. He barely ever touched on the actual course material, but then would quiz us at the end of the day on what we were supposed to have read from the book. After, I dunno, 10 or so classes, I finally got sick of this joker and asked him specifically HOW do you go about "following your dreams" and "doing what you want to do"? What's the first step to take? His outrageous response was, "You take $20,000 and start a business." I asked him where I'm supposed to get $20,000? Rob a bank? The class chuckled, the professor was not amused. We didn't get along after that, and he ended up giving me a C in the course. Parents flew into a tizzy. I explained what happened, and they said I should've kept my mouth shut. But of course! Never ever talking about anything at all is the answer to everything (but we'll make a special exception for when you get a grade lower than a B). So, yeah, that's one of three experiences I've had with "follow your dreams" type of people. They're either: 1. People born with a silver spoon up their ass, have had everything handed to them, and have absolutely no concept of anyone who isn't on the same financial level as they are. 2. People paid to say such things on TV or paid motivational speakers they'd bring into schools now and then to put on a song and dance in the auditorium, who only care that they're getting paid to say it, and don't give a fuck that it really means nothing. 3. People who are totally delusional. Reality bites. ![]() Devlin Domaine "I have studied many philosophers and many cats. The wisdom of cats is infinitely superior." - Hippolyte Taine |
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Brigade Delbrack |
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I have to wonder if becoming a parent automatically makes some people turn into complete assholes, or were they just that way to begin with.
Some parents seem to have to so little in common and do practically nothing together for fun, that you have to wonder how they became involved in a relationship and eventually married to begin with. |
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